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Do you agree with the -20%avg rule for free-gained players during inter-season?
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Cadet
I guess my question for the @ would be how we were supposed to know at the lower numbers if the person had been fired from a better team or their auction had ended. Either way they would show up on our scouts as free. If you answered this before, I apologize, because I did not read through 25 pages of people complaining and @ saying we should have known. If a player shows up unsigned on my scout, and it betters my team, I am going to sign him. I don't look in to where he came from. 21/06/2011 00:39
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Look. I only want consistency.

I put a considerable amount of time into building my team. I created an extra roster spot to capitalize on a chance that even admins thought was legal.

I wake up today to a severe penalty because I broke the rules. When I call bull* * * it gets silent. When the administration come back to life, they say that breaking the rules isn't the point and deflect.

Fair isn't the point! Getting a straight answer is. Getting a real justification and ownership of an issue instead of handling it through avoidance and equivocation.

If I act on the 20% reduction what happens if they are improved back tomorrow in order to make things fair as you see them?

Worse, what happens to the poor souls who bought players acquired this way? They are out millions while the violators are * rewarded* for their actions.


Frankly, you have turned a perceived problem into a massive credibility crisis which alienated your most loyal customers.
To put it succinctly, you spent two weeks asleep at the wheel and when you woke up you jerked the car into a ditch.

Ignoring the problems and leaving questions unanswered is rapidly leading to your word becoming worthless.

That is next to impossible to restore. I really urge you to act now to restore faith.
21/06/2011 01:27
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Free Steve Nash, Free Steve Nash!

Whoops, wrong league
21/06/2011 01:37
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i think that would be fail solution for all 21/06/2011 02:00
  Mr. Q17 - Div1/Gr1
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i read almoust all menagers,
so i think for players 24 age and younger (-2 years will be nice)
and for players +24 age( coz they dont improve) should be -1 year and -10% (ex. 50 to 45)

hope u find some solution where both sides will be ok
21/06/2011 02:22
  Mr. Q17 - Div1/Gr1
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I Would have rather paid the release clause on the guy before he was released, but apparently that was already deleted. A temporary (9 matches maybe?) suspension would have been nicer, because then he would still be useful to someone. Frankly when I first saw he went down as far as he did I thought it was another test, like the time in the last week of Season 2 when the promotion rules were changed twice before they could decide what worked, (and they still didn't do that right, but that's another story). It is a bit ridiculous, but then again, it seems ridiculosity (which is totally a word now) makes this game fun sometimes

Lord of everything but Atlantis,
Hewhoamareismyself

Edited by hewhoamareismyself 21-06-2011 03:01
21/06/2011 02:59
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Deducting points will be a better option i think.. 21/06/2011 05:20
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Deducting points will be a better option i think.. 21/06/2011 05:20
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So are we nearing to a solution or what ?

I still dont understand why managers should suffer for a game glitch ?

If those other manager, to whom, you guys are trying to pretend fair to, were online at that point in time, they wud have signed free agents too.

Its not our fault they were not online or whatever.

Moreover the situation is a result of your promotion campaign, where so many signed up, but did not return.

I think it wud make more sense to go back and start this season again. If you guys really want to do something.
21/06/2011 05:34
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I follow the topic from the very first, and I have somethings to share, with my experience of being a game developer, a marketing and communication manager, and also a video game reporter for 5 years. I love this game.

1> I vote no, but I agree with the 20% deduction of those players. Since, the decision was made, it was not the best, but so far at that time, is the best for the balance of the game. The problem here, i think, is the communication method was used.

What should be the communication message is "We made a mistake, we need your understanding, the game is still new, just 2 seasons finished, and this decision in our knowledge and experience is the best for keeping the balance of the game, we take 20% of those players, and 5 GB was given for those take the lost, for the best.". Fair enough, and this message (by announcing and replying) in game or in forum should be made by communication staffs, not by technical teams.

2> I don't agree that some admins call us"Cheaters" Using the game's fault is wrong, of course, but we did it without the knowledge of that was your fault creating the fault. By going with this game so far until this time, I already know and have predictions that decisions could be made whenever the problems happen. It is acceptable since the game just begin for 2 seasons and changes need to be made, like beta version of Facebook, of Gmail or anything. And at this time, I and my friends also just think "Well, maybe this (free players) is just another decision of the admin, just let's do it." The resource is there for everybody, and who are the fastest, get the benefit, that is fair, for sure.

I don't agree with @Rand the admin, please stop telling us the definition of "good manager", "fun to play" and "punishment". We feel fun then it's fun, if not, then is no. Who win, take the crown, who lost, take the revenge. It's understandable Rand, I'm your side mate, but please alone the communication staff replying the players, they are made to do that.

3> There is a new problem, my players don't get the stamina recover today, and i'm sure, not me alone.

James,
21/06/2011 06:03
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