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beachbernie said:

It's not necessarily the case that hostile takeovers are made to improve one's own team. It also imaginable that someone uses this tool to weaken his opponent, say in the struggle to get promoted to a higher league, which I personally consider unfair.
Though it hasn't happened to me (yet) I would prefer a rule which forbids hostile takeovers within Your own league. This would still leave plenty of room for making Your team better, but would make it impossible to "steal" Your opponents goalkeeper 25 hours before a decisive match, making it close to impossible to replace him in time.



Well, then pay your GK high enough and/or have the GK subs. That's fair.
27/06/2011 19:20
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That's true, and spoken like a truly mean cop...

I do get the jist of what beachbernie is saying though, but I guess you can use any old player to play GK. It would be hilarious if you won though.
27/06/2011 19:33
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ymcop said:
beachbernie said:

It's not necessarily the case that hostile takeovers are made to improve one's own team. It also imaginable that someone uses this tool to weaken his opponent, say in the struggle to get promoted to a higher league, which I personally consider unfair.
Though it hasn't happened to me (yet) I would prefer a rule which forbids hostile takeovers within Your own league. This would still leave plenty of room for making Your team better, but would make it impossible to "steal" Your opponents goalkeeper 25 hours before a decisive match, making it close to impossible to replace him in time.



Well, then pay your GK high enough and/or have the GK subs. That's fair.


Build Yourself a better team, so that You win without any questionable tricks. [b]That's[/b] fair!


I already overpay my key players, just to be sure. But that doesn't quite protect against a manager who wants to play it dirty. You would have to pay everybody salaries, that would ultimately bankrupt you, if You wanna be really safe from a manager who doesn't care what a player is really worth, only about how to srew You up.

To point this out: I don't have anything against hostile takeovers in general. This has happened to me before and that's part of the game. I only argue against hostile takeovers with the clear intention to hurt another team.


27/06/2011 21:19
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beachbernie said:

To point this out: I don't have anything against hostile takeovers in general. This has happened to me before and that's part of the game. I only argue against hostile takeovers with the clear intention to hurt another team.



It's designed to be hurt as well I guess.
28/06/2011 03:52
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Talking about the release clause, i think it's a fair game.

You need to have a team with depth.

You need 2 goal keepers with the total release clause of about 5 or 6M. If some player do the dirty play by buying all your goalies, with 6M, you can easily find another. If you're playing in the 4th div, then maybe the release clause have to be even higher to make sure that you can buy the release clause of other good and comparable goalie.

Don't be cheap, give your players good pay. The release clause should be 1.5 or double the value of the player.

And finally, if people take advantage of the release clause to get good ones, you should do it to. It takes so much time find good players with low release clause (sometimes you don't find them using your coach secr.) so this rule should be a rewards for anyone who really gives it some time in order to get desired players.




28/06/2011 04:38
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dustinwind said:
Talking about the release clause, i think it's a fair game.

You need to have a team with depth.

You need 2 goal keepers with the total release clause of about 5 or 6M. If some player do the dirty play by buying all your goalies, with 6M, you can easily find another. If you're playing in the 4th div, then maybe the release clause have to be even higher to make sure that you can buy the release clause of other good and comparable goalie.

Don't be cheap, give your players good pay. The release clause should be 1.5 or double the value of the player.

And finally, if people take advantage of the release clause to get good ones, you should do it to. It takes so much time find good players with low release clause (sometimes you don't find them using your coach secr.) so this rule should be a rewards for anyone who really gives it some time in order to get desired players.







The problem is if someone buys up Your goalies 24 hours before Your decisive game against his team, You won't be able to buy a replacement in time. Since then You don't have enough time to look for a new goalie, since You can't buy one over the release clause, because there's a 24 hours waiting period. That's what I would call playing it dirty. It won't help You if you could buy an even better goalie after the game.

Otherwise You are right, it's part of the game that someone buys up a player from Your team that is important for it. Usually You can use the money You get to buy yourself a new one, but not if someone screws You up intentionally, as I described it.
28/06/2011 05:02
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The problem is if someone buys up Your goalies 24 hours before Your decisive game against his team, You won't be able to buy a replacement in time. Since then You don't have enough time to look for a new goalie, since You can't buy one over the release clause, because there's a 24 hours waiting period. That's what I would call playing it dirty. It won't help You if you could buy an even better goalie after the game.

Otherwise You are right, it's part of the game that someone buys up a player from Your team that is important for it. Usually You can use the money You get to buy yourself a new one, but not if someone screws You up intentionally, as I described it.


I believe there're still plenty of good goalies you can get from the market within a few hours.
Other way to get around with it is to make friends with some active players. You can buy a goalie from them. Wait for them to be online and arrange a transfer. As long as they click the button to accept your purchase request, the goalie will be transferred immediately.

If you don't think it's 6M is not safe enough, make it 8M then. If even that doesn't work out, the only thing we can do is to temp. promote a youth player.

28/06/2011 07:19
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beachbernie said:

The problem is if someone buys up Your goalies 24 hours before Your decisive game against his team, You won't be able to buy a replacement in time. Since then You don't have enough time to look for a new goalie, since You can't buy one over the release clause, because there's a 24 hours waiting period. That's what I would call playing it dirty. It won't help You if you could buy an even better goalie after the game.

Otherwise You are right, it's part of the game that someone buys up a player from Your team that is important for it. Usually You can use the money You get to buy yourself a new one, but not if someone screws You up intentionally, as I described it.


There's actually a trick, as the "victim" in this situation, to give yourself a chance to find your replacement in time for your next match. when someone buys your player, dirty or otherwise, if you just go to Signings and click for your player to be released immediately to their new team, you'll get your compensation immediately and you can start your frantic search for a replacement with your new money. i wouldn't do it myself since i'd maximize that 24 hours to allow my player to play one last game for me and make sure he's tired when his new team gets him, but this is the alternative way if you just want to move on and collect your money immediately.
29/06/2011 21:49
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There's actually a trick, as the "victim" in this situation, to give yourself a chance to find your replacement in time for your next match. when someone buys your player, dirty or otherwise, if you just go to Signings and click for your player to be released immediately to their new team, you'll get your compensation immediately and you can start your frantic search for a replacement with your new money. i wouldn't do it myself since i'd maximize that 24 hours to allow my player to play one last game for me and make sure he's tired when his new team gets him, but this is the alternative way if you just want to move on and collect your money immediately.


Not a bad idea....

You can not only use that money to buy a replacement, but also to retaliate and try to screw Your opponents team. Yes....that's probably what I would do in that situation. Plus put that jerk on my bad-list and give him an extra screw up somewhere in the future, when he least expects it.


29/06/2011 23:27
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beachbernie said:
Romasik2000 said:
jacobpark said:
Do people purposely jack your team up with the Hostile takeover?

I lost a good player today, not my best, but one that if I lost my team would be ALOT weaker due to over tired defenders...

Ah well, I guess I should have thought of that when I was renegotiating their contracts.

People are mean... lol


Yes, people do it on purpose. Not to be mean, but to make their team better. I'd suggest to make sure that you're paying your players higher salaries to make sure it is cheaper to get a player from the market than steal one from your team.

It's not necessarily the case that hostile takeovers are made to improve one's own team. It also imaginable that someone uses this tool to weaken his opponent, say in the struggle to get promoted to a higher league, which I personally consider unfair.
Though it hasn't happened to me (yet) I would prefer a rule which forbids hostile takeovers within Your own league. This would still leave plenty of room for making Your team better, but would make it impossible to "steal" Your opponents goalkeeper 25 hours before a decisive match, making it close to impossible to replace him in time.





Those bastards!
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