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Where do I report cheating, or playing against the nature of the game?
Some people I have encountered stack most of their players in clumps...
This to me is very destructive to the game; anyone with no intelligence can clump their players...
This practice deviates intelligent strategy and tactics it is brute force and non-intelligent play...
Please stop this practice!
Where do E report this destructive practice?
02/07/2011 19:33
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Using a certain formation is not cheating... Wait until next sim, that shouldn't happen so much.

But do the best teams in the world really need tactics in 90% of the games, or is it just brute force.
02/07/2011 20:00
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Thanks for your answer.

Real Madrid = Brute force
Barcelona = strategy and tactics
Barcelona wins La Liga

Manchester City = Brute force
Manchester United = stragegy and tactics
Manchester United wins Premier League

Battle of strategy

Manchester United vs Barcelona

Barcelona's strategy took Chicharito out of the game completely
Barcelona wins Champions

So I think in football today you do need good players but with strategy.
02/07/2011 20:05
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You crystallize MY point.

Strategy & Tactics won by 4 points 3*38 possible points = 114 points. 4/114 = less than 5%

Now let me get this right. Mourinho doesn't use superior strategy and tactics...That explains his success.

Barcelona passes the ball with inverted wingers trying to poke it into Messi, who happens to be the best player in the world it would seem... Some strategy. Man that must require a lot of thought.

Manchester United vs Barcelona = Strategic failure on Man U's part, NOT Barcelona's success. <<== fixed text... (was "tactical...should have read Barca's success)

Man U tried to contain Messi by surrounding him on 4 sides, hoping to limit him playing a zone with a hole in the middle. That was just stupid. They let him get the ball unfettered many times 10yds in front of the goal box. Sure as hell, he scored from there. They just let him run alone all day. Strategic failure.

Now, Man U. vs. the aging Chelsea team was a game of tactical failures on both teams parts... Lampard spent half the game staring into space. Man, it must have been tough to out think some alzheimer's patient on the field. Man U's Vidic scored a nice goal, but then laid back allowing Chelsea's only goal. He's not standing in a line w/ his defenders - Tactical Failure.

Think. f'ing Americans don't know anything about Soccer....



Edited by rebsiot 02-07-2011 20:44
02/07/2011 20:35
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rebsiot said:
You crystallize MY point.

Strategy & Tactics won by 4 points 3*38 possible points = 114 points. 4/114 = less than 5%

Now let me get this right. Mourinho doesn't use superior strategy and tactics...That explains his success.

Barcelona passes the ball with inverted wingers trying to poke it into Messi, who happens to be the best player in the world it would seem... Some strategy. Man that must require a lot of thought.

Manchester United vs Barcelona = Strategic failure on Man U's part, NOT Tactical.

Man U tried to contain Messi by surrounding him on 4 sides, hoping to limit him playing a zone with a hole in the middle. That was just stupid. They let him get the ball unfettered many times 10yds in front of the goal box. Sure as hell, he scored from there. They just let him run alone all day. Strategic failure.

Now, Man U. vs. the aging Chelsea team was a game of tactical failures on both teams parts... Lampard spent half the game staring into space. Man, it must have been tough to out think some alzheimer's patient on the field. Man U's Vidic scored a nice goal, but then laid back allowing Chelsea's only goal. He's not standing in a line w/ his defenders - Tactical Failure.

Think. f'ing Americans don't know anything about Soccer....


Edited by rebsiot 02-07-2011 20:37

that is true
02/07/2011 20:42
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Actually you are right; but your analysis is superficial and has little to do with the structure of this game, which is why this post was created.

Barcelona gets the majority of its players from their schools and now an d then buys players that will strengthen their team. Guardiola took a Barcelona that was plagued with problems, got rid of the players that did not fit in his scheme and managed to beat the best Coach in the world, Mourinho.
This is called strategy not tactics; this is long term planning. There is no brute force in Barcelona.
On the other hand, Real Madrid, hires left and right seldom does a player rise to the 1st team from their "cantera"; they use brute force, just unintelligent use of money.
The same is with Manchester City/Chelsea vs Manchester United. Manchester United creates players instead of buying them.

So how the game stands now it's all about brute force vs brute force. There is is no chance for strategy.



Edited by rabioso01 03-07-2011 05:46
03/07/2011 05:44
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Now you change the topic, from formations, to club generation/subsistence

So, you move the goalposts. So, I will fight this battle on your new turf.

Look at my junior team. also, look at the junior teams of the top teams in the game.

All development. All day, every day. Now look at the make up of the development teams.

Now do the math. What do you think is going on in there? Magic?

There's no way in hell you compete at this game without investing in players and infrastructure in a smart fashion.

03/07/2011 05:57
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again I agree. look at my junior team.
I think we keep talking about totally different things...
I don't like arguing for arguing's sake...specially in a game.
I do too much arguing in my real life profession to do the same here...
03/07/2011 06:04
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I love arguing for arguing's sake... It's fun.

But...that's not the point.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

There are some parts of this game that are brute force. But I have beaten and tied teams as much as 5 points avg higher through tactics.

But it is a sim game...not the beautiful one. the beauty this that its against other people and we get to pretend...

If admins were paying attention, these types of discussions would be useful. But as someone said, you wouldn't know if this game is going to last out the week with the lack of admin response...although I did see a couple on here today.
03/07/2011 07:23
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Hmmmm kudos 03/07/2011 07:35
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