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Do you agree with the -20%avg rule for free-gained players during inter-season?
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Cultif said:
Ninocchi said:
paus united said:
I'm talking about playmoney.. Divide it in an exponential way


I like the idea for sure but that raises other questions. What about those players that users choose not to pay to raise their average? Chances are that they'll be auctioned for additional funds. Will they still have the ability to raise their average or will they simply be stuck as is permanently excluding training/age?
If they do keep their ability to raise their average, then how many people would pay extra money to only spend more raising the other player. Might be more cost-efficient to buy a player of a higher original average.

Also, how long would we keep this ability for? Lots of questions, but again, good basis for fixing it.


I like the idea as well.

Give managers the opportunity for let's say 1 week to chose whether:
1. they want to increase an effected player till normal avg at a cost (how much can be decided later)
2. they don't want to raise avg and instead keep the player at the -20%avg in their team.

So this will be fair because:
1. managers have to pay for good players
2. managers will be compensated fairly for selling/firing players before


Right, because you made a lot of money "buying" and selling players, you can pay for all of that offcourse
20/06/2011 17:47
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I will be happy to return that money if i get those players back.

That would be 11M btw for 4 players.

Edited by Cultif 20-06-2011 17:50
20/06/2011 17:48
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ok, i didn´t see that, my mistake and i reconize it when i fail there were many messages and is posible i couldn´t see that, but were are here to apologise when a mistake is comitted and for me is not a problem say sorry as many times as needed.Good solution Rand sorry again 20/06/2011 17:48
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Edited by pizzawd 20-06-2011 17:55
20/06/2011 17:54
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@Rand said:
Romasik2000 said:
@Rand said:
Romasik2000 said:
Also...
Admins, remember that this game is not for you but for the players (I'm a paying customer) and at the moment big majority of them don't agree with your decision.... think about it.

Edited by Romasik2000 20-06-2011 15:56



100% agree. Thanks. The problem for you, is that you are the minority.

We won't allow a few of you, actually, it's only 287 users who got a player for free, to make the game unfair for the rest, who is a vast majority. ( There are 18.000 teams ).

We're doing this for the sake of the fairness of the game. Nothing more.





18000 teams - yes....
But how many active players?



Still quite a lot more than 287. That's for sure.


That might be the reason.
20/06/2011 17:55
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I just want to ask one thing.

In real world, if the contract of the player ends, he is free to go any team at no cost other than salary which wud be offered to him. So, if these players are without team in market, so who is getting the money from their auction..?? ADMIN..??

Now, thats a gud way devised by admin to earn more for their teams. Admin guys, your job is to make game more realistic and by auctioning teamless players in market you are driving the game away from that.

Secondly if you can see, these 287 managers are the ones who are making this game fun for Striker Manager by remaining active. you have taken this decision for those 18000 who are ready to leave at any time. Thats how you pay back to these loyal 287 managers.

We have spent money to get high rating point coaching secretary and he is doing his job well by bringing in unsigned good players for the team. Ask those 18000 of yours to pay more for their coaching secretary.

In the end, I just want to reiterate my first point, in real world, players whose contract gets finished and not renewed by their team are free to go to any team. You can not put a price on them. That was not bug, that was the right thing.
20/06/2011 17:56
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@Rand said:
SrInerte said:
well,after renew some of my player i didn´t know the solution wasn´t so bad actually i think all of us should be happy. I thought our players were turning from 50 to 32 but that was because of the moral and energy...Some people might be not happy as they paid a lot for a player who decrease because of someone who got advantage of the situation but most of us win with this situation i signed sever players 50 av that now is 44 which is not so bad at all, I want to apologise to all @´s i could offense i think the solution is not so bad and not everybody can be happy but that´s the way it is decreasin 4 points or 6 is not so bad besides some players are young and will get better with training so , what´s the big deal ?¿ i didn´t realised that until i renew some contracts and saw the real AV i am very bad at mats D thank´s @ and sorry for all


I have already said this on page 1...




ok, i didn´t see that, my mistake and i reconize it when i fail there were many messages and is posible i couldn´t see that, but were are here to apologise when a mistake is comitted and for me is not a problem say sorry as many times as needed.Good solution Rand sorry again
20/06/2011 17:59
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michaelowen said:
Ninocchi said:
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common admin!! give me a reason why i shouldnt quit this game!!! the revenue i received from the game is not even worth 100k. With this kind of problem, u admin just solve it with pathetic method. Saying we can only purchase those good player auction, let me ask u den, how can i afford it when the money i gain from those games to purchase it?? i have to save how many weeks to buy the player? THINK FOR A BIT BEFORE MAKING THIS USELESS REASONING PLZ!!!!

Revenue? What revenue? You haven't played a home game this season yet. Your last home game you've pulled in 600k so I'm not sure what you're overreacting about.
Also, you don't gain profit from that. You make money by buying players, training them up and selling them. Or finding juniors to sign and sell.

Please, stop overreacting and threatening to quit. Grow up a little.

Edited by Ninocchi 20-06-2011 17:13


why should i grow up!! just mind ur own fcking biz!!
even if it is a home game, let me ask u, how many home game are there in a week? earn just 600k in 1 week if there is only 1 home game in a week?
how many player can i sell den mother-fcker ? sell those good player and buy those lower avg to train and den lose on the games again n again? and den forever stay in div 6!!!



If Cristiano.Ronaldo got his team retained for 72 hours for what he said, this is no different. There is no need to use language like that in the forum!
20/06/2011 18:00
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@internat said:
Sorry I haven't been able to answer this thread yet, but I've some time now.

I haven't read all the messages in this thread so maybe some of the things I'll say may have been already discussed.

We had this season a situation that we haven't had faced before. As you know this server has been growing a lot in users in the last few weeks, I don't have here the exact numbers but, we've got almost 50.000 new users in the last season. Each of these users get a new team, counting an average of 30 new players per team, that's 1.500.000 new players.

Most of these new user never connect again after the first try, so their players never get re-signed. After ending the season there were 30.000 players that had ended his contract. Usually there are at the most 1.000 free players at the end of any other season, so we offer this players in auction, so all teams can get some benefit of these players.

This season that procedure got totally out of control with that huge amount of players. People bought in auction players they need but after the auction ended a lot of good players went free so everyone could buy them.

We think this situation is unfair. Some teams have totally renewed their squad with players ranging an average between 55-70, at no cost.

We didn't want to cause too much harm to both, teams who bought free players and teams who didn't. We have discused many options as authomatically fire all these players, or put a fine to the teams.

The final solution, we think is the least harmful to all managers.

We took note of what happened this season and this won't happen again.

I hope this explains why we took this decision.



Here is one more question for you. You say that server has been growing a lot, with around 50,000 managers in a few months and most of them never connect again.
Isnt this after you started that campaign to promote striker manager, where you were giving away free GBs ?
Now Mind telling me, who created the situation ?
IMO its you guys !
And who has to pay for it ? The Passionate Managers of this Game. Also known as Active Managers !

Thoughts and some Stats plz. If you may.


20/06/2011 18:02
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The 20% penalty is arbitrary, capricious, and compensating for unintended consequences. Apparently, the "bugs" that caused this have been reported for some weeks, but admin did nothing to advise the users or change code to fix it.

It would have taken 1 statement in the update section to avoid this area.

"ANYONE ACQUIRING A FREE AGENT AFTER AUCTION AT $0 RELEASE WILL BE PENALIZED"

Now I'm being punished because I acquired players off the street without paying a release fee into the ether...a release fee designed to protect players from being stolen, not being signed as free agents.

I posted my defense in a separate thread. But suffice it to say, and I say it there, you can't put this genie back in the bottle by killing it.

You aren't biting the hands that feed you, you're chopping off arms.
20/06/2011 18:04
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