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Do you agree with the -20%avg rule for free-gained players during inter-season?
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Frantiiiiic said: michaelowen said: @internat said: Sorry I haven't been able to answer this thread yet, but I've some time now. I haven't read all the messages in this thread so maybe some of the things I'll say may have been already discussed. We had this season a situation that we haven't had faced before. As you know this server has been growing a lot in users in the last few weeks, I don't have here the exact numbers but, we've got almost 50.000 new users in the last season. Each of these users get a new team, counting an average of 30 new players per team, that's 1.500.000 new players. Most of these new user never connect again after the first try, so their players never get re-signed. After ending the season there were 30.000 players that had ended his contract. Usually there are at the most 1.000 free players at the end of any other season, so we offer this players in auction, so all teams can get some benefit of these players. This season that procedure got totally out of control with that huge amount of players. People bought in auction players they need but after the auction ended a lot of good players went free so everyone could buy them. We think this situation is unfair. Some teams have totally renewed their squad with players ranging an average between 55-70, at no cost. We didn't want to cause too much harm to both, teams who bought free players and teams who didn't. We have discused many options as authomatically fire all these players, or put a fine to the teams. The final solution, we think is the least harmful to all managers. We took note of what happened this season and this won't happen again. I hope this explains why we took this decision. least harmful?? are u serious?? so there is no adjustment to the deduction of the avg of all player? and can u mind explain why i lost to a team with no tactic and the manger isnt active at all? i start off with 4 loses and didnt end up a promotion. Now my first game is a LOSE!!! i dont wan to stay another season at div 6!!! can u please upgrade ur games system!! every morning i login, it is so lagging!!! i am very unsatisfied with ur game services There is no justice. common admin!! give me a reason why i shouldnt quit this game!!! the revenue i received from the game is not even worth 100k. With this kind of problem, u admin just solve it with pathetic method. Saying we can only purchase those good player auction, let me ask u den, how can i afford it when the money i gain from those games to purchase it?? i have to save how many weeks to buy the player? THINK FOR A BIT BEFORE MAKING THIS USELESS REASONING PLZ!!!! |
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@internat said: Sorry I haven't been able to answer this thread yet, but I've some time now. I haven't read all the messages in this thread so maybe some of the things I'll say may have been already discussed. We had this season a situation that we haven't had faced before. As you know this server has been growing a lot in users in the last few weeks, I don't have here the exact numbers but, we've got almost 50.000 new users in the last season. Each of these users get a new team, counting an average of 30 new players per team, that's 1.500.000 new players. Most of these new user never connect again after the first try, so their players never get re-signed. After ending the season there were 30.000 players that had ended his contract. Usually there are at the most 1.000 free players at the end of any other season, so we offer this players in auction, so all teams can get some benefit of these players. This season that procedure got totally out of control with that huge amount of players. People bought in auction players they need but after the auction ended a lot of good players went free so everyone could buy them. We think this situation is unfair. Some teams have totally renewed their squad with players ranging an average between 55-70, at no cost. We didn't want to cause too much harm to both, teams who bought free players and teams who didn't. We have discused many options as authomatically fire all these players, or put a fine to the teams. The final solution, we think is the least harmful to all managers. We took note of what happened this season and this won't happen again. I hope this explains why we took this decision. You call that a BUG ? How is this a Bug ? This is a situation. Best left alone than this mindless action. at max reduce 5%, why 20% ? I gave my goalkeeper away for cheap, cos i thought i thought i have a got a good player. Now i am not gonna get that back, Am i ? Did u even think about consequences or how this action is going to hurt the most active users of striker manager ? How about those GBs we spent on coaching sect. You are not gonna give them back now ? Are you ? |
20/06/2011 17:09 |
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@internat said: Sorry I haven't been able to answer this thread yet, but I've some time now. I haven't read all the messages in this thread so maybe some of the things I'll say may have been already discussed. We had this season a situation that we haven't had faced before. As you know this server has been growing a lot in users in the last few weeks, I don't have here the exact numbers but, we've got almost 50.000 new users in the last season. Each of these users get a new team, counting an average of 30 new players per team, that's 1.500.000 new players. Most of these new user never connect again after the first try, so their players never get re-signed. After ending the season there were 30.000 players that had ended his contract. Usually there are at the most 1.000 free players at the end of any other season, so we offer this players in auction, so all teams can get some benefit of these players. This season that procedure got totally out of control with that huge amount of players. People bought in auction players they need but after the auction ended a lot of good players went free so everyone could buy them. We think this situation is unfair. Some teams have totally renewed their squad with players ranging an average between 55-70, at no cost. We didn't want to cause too much harm to both, teams who bought free players and teams who didn't. We have discused many options as authomatically fire all these players, or put a fine to the teams. The final solution, we think is the least harmful to all managers. We took note of what happened this season and this won't happen again. I hope this explains why we took this decision. Look guys, the thing is, this was not players cheating or using a bug ,but just using common sense. If noone buys a player and he's without a team, what do you think happens to them? They become a free agent and you are allowed to sign him for free and that's what people did. That's why you can search for them using Coach Secretary with "No Team" selection. Those players were in a team at some point but their contract expired and they were not resigned. It is a legit tool that you guys provide to use. So my question is, why did players get punished for signing free agents? We all understand that tghose players were put on a market, but noone bought them so they became free agents... where in the rules is it against the rule to sign a free agent? |
20/06/2011 17:10 |
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zozo2k3 said: A bug report was sent to you, and you didn't act on it. You waited until after the auction has completely ended (rather than sending a message on the first day, at the very least), and you put this draconian measure. This is absurd. Agreed, they knew "a lot of managers" were taking advantage of this, yet didn't act and let it all go accordingly. And then when everything was done, the admins come and punish them, while all this could have been avoided... Problem aswell is that these managers are the most active players in the game, and THEY are the ones keeping this game alive, not the guys that are online once a week or even less... |
20/06/2011 17:10 |
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michaelowen said: common admin!! give me a reason why i shouldnt quit this game!!! the revenue i received from the game is not even worth 100k. With this kind of problem, u admin just solve it with pathetic method. Saying we can only purchase those good player auction, let me ask u den, how can i afford it when the money i gain from those games to purchase it?? i have to save how many weeks to buy the player? THINK FOR A BIT BEFORE MAKING THIS USELESS REASONING PLZ!!!! Revenue? What revenue? You haven't played a home game this season yet. Your last home game you've pulled in 600k so I'm not sure what you're overreacting about. Also, you don't gain profit from that. You make money by buying players, training them up and selling them. Or finding juniors to sign and sell. Please, stop overreacting and threatening to quit. Grow up a little. Edited by Ninocchi 20-06-2011 17:13 |
20/06/2011 17:12 |
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I think I found a solution: make a button where the managers can increase the avg. of the decreased player. It's similar to the 'course button' of your staff. By doing this you will a)make the managers pay for the better players, and make sure they don't have any benefit b) Give the 'victim managers' a chance of doing some adjustments in order to repare their team avg to a reasonable state I hope this is possible, because by doing this, it will be fair for ALL the managers |
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Romasik2000 said: @internat said: Sorry I haven't been able to answer this thread yet, but I've some time now. I haven't read all the messages in this thread so maybe some of the things I'll say may have been already discussed. We had this season a situation that we haven't had faced before. As you know this server has been growing a lot in users in the last few weeks, I don't have here the exact numbers but, we've got almost 50.000 new users in the last season. Each of these users get a new team, counting an average of 30 new players per team, that's 1.500.000 new players. Most of these new user never connect again after the first try, so their players never get re-signed. After ending the season there were 30.000 players that had ended his contract. Usually there are at the most 1.000 free players at the end of any other season, so we offer this players in auction, so all teams can get some benefit of these players. This season that procedure got totally out of control with that huge amount of players. People bought in auction players they need but after the auction ended a lot of good players went free so everyone could buy them. We think this situation is unfair. Some teams have totally renewed their squad with players ranging an average between 55-70, at no cost. We didn't want to cause too much harm to both, teams who bought free players and teams who didn't. We have discused many options as authomatically fire all these players, or put a fine to the teams. The final solution, we think is the least harmful to all managers. We took note of what happened this season and this won't happen again. I hope this explains why we took this decision. Look guys, the thing is, this was not players cheating or using a bug ,but just using common sense. If noone buys a player and he's without a team, what do you think happens to them? They become a free agent and you are allowed to sign him for free and that's what people did. That's why you can search for them using Coach Secretary with "No Team" selection. Those players were in a team at some point but their contract expired and they were not resigned. It is a legit tool that you guys provide to use. So my question is, why did players get punished for signing free agents? We all understand that tghose players were put on a market, but noone bought them so they became free agents... where in the rules is it against the rule to sign a free agent? Firstly, thanks @internat, for sounding sane. This is probably the first response from the admins team that tries to explain the situation. Some of the admins were really after calling the players cheats. Personally, this has hurt me more than deduction in my players' stats. As for other points Romasik's pt is totally valid. We are just trying to make the admins see reason. All said and done you cannot punish players for no fault on their part. |
20/06/2011 17:19 |
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paus united said: I think I found a solution: make a button where the managers can increase the avg. of the decreased player. It's similar to the 'course button' of your staff. By doing this you will a)make the managers pay for the better players, and make sure they don't have any benefit b) Give the 'victim managers' a chance of doing some adjustments in order to repare their team avg to a reasonable state I hope this is possible, because by doing this, it will be fair for ALL the managers I'm assuming you're talking about GB. There's some thought and I'm sure maybe the game owners would like it, but even the paying users would hate it. If it's in-game cash, there's some possibility. Make the cost equivilant to the value going from one average to another. For example, going from 43-44 is cheaper than 51-52. That way, owners of these free players can keep them at whatever average they can afford, and in turn indirectly pay for the players that they "should have" according to the admins. |
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If you post again in the same way you've done here, you will be banned from the game. Edited by @shengli 20-06-2011 21:24 |
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Edited by J. A. Camacho 20-06-2011 17:34 |
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