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Do you agree with the -20%avg rule for free-gained players during inter-season?
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can u all stop whine? they probably working on something ty |
21/06/2011 18:57 |
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ymcop said: Cultif said: ymcop said: No, it's not done, our players' stamina didn't recover today, also the training. Hello, any communication for this admin? This has nothing to do with the 20%avg rule. You could make another topic about this, then they will notice it. It does! Because of this problem they stop the training and stamina process to not make things worse. We just need even a message like: "Guys, admin here, we are working on this, also the training and stamina problem, we will get back tomorrow morning." Admins on here, Mostly like to keep quiet, in the situations like these. Forum history speaks for itself. Some of you might remember that New players given 42,000 capacity stadiums and better squads saga. Back then also, if i remember correctly, they decided to keep quiet about it, until that mail/system notification was finally sent. |
21/06/2011 18:58 |
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@internat said: We've been discussing here how to solve this, and we can offer to restore players average to a -10%, and 2 years younger. If most of you agree we will proceed this way. I agree ..and I hope I'm not the only one noticing that the stamina recovery and training aren't working? |
21/06/2011 18:59 |
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brezzette said: can u all stop whine? they probably working on something ty Whats whining for you, is actually just Protesting and Sharing Opinions for us. ty |
21/06/2011 19:01 |
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inertia said: brezzette said: can u all stop whine? they probably working on something ty Whats whining for you, is actually just Protesting and Sharing Opinions for us. ty u call it as u like,for me its WHINING ! was protesting and sharing at the begining when we all give our opinions how to fix this but now commnets are:what is this? why is this? etc |
21/06/2011 19:07 |
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brezzette said: u call it as u like,for me its WHINING ! was protesting and sharing at the begining when we all give our opinions how to fix this but now commnets are:what is this? why is this? etc Oh noes! Somebody's whining. What do we do now? :'( Seriously, you don't like it then stop reading. I'll admit that there are a number of posters who should definitely take a step back and relax but there's nothing that you or I can say or do to prevent them from venting about this and other related issues. |
21/06/2011 19:11 |
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paus united said: At first there is NO NEED TO OFFEND PEOPLE AND GET PERSONAL!! But let's stay on the topic Secondly why can't I understand your "basic reasoning"? -You always talk about that thread that (a) just a few have read, (b)neither has been confirmed by any admin... I suggest you take a good look at this thread: http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=256407 -As stated earlier in the discussion, an admin even said it wasn't a bug, and some admins even signed players by the same way. So please stop calling it a bug, because even if it was, we simply couldn't know. - You said: (today 13:38) "So those who used the bug, ignored the warnings (this was discussed in the forums prior to the weekend and was a known bug), can now get 54avg players for free?While those who heeded the warnings and obeyed the game rules don't benefit? Expect the "-10% avg Rule Poll" thread to be created soon" I may be crazy, as you said the post before, but I didn't recieve ANY warning? Neither did the other 280 managers! As stated before, there weren't any rules broken. So by making two invalid arguments, you decide to attack the reasonable admin-suggestion, and block the issue of being solved. So, why is the -10%avg. rule fair? Everybody can conclude that these transactions by managers are/were legit. They just signed free players (as you did in the season, youth player or not), and by doing so they strengthen their team. That's why I even think there shouldn't be any punishment at all!! However to make the game fair, the proposed settlement of -10% avg. helps all the parties. Why? It compensates -the managers who fired good players. There won't be a big difference before and after the inter-season. -the managers who bought these players, and also didn't know it was a bug -managers who didn't sign any of them, by implementing the -10%avg. the overall avg of these teams stays status-quo Let me show you with an example: In my situation the avg. of my team has dropped in comparison with my last season match because of the -20% rule. But by implementing this 10%-measure the difference of the overall avg. of my team before the interseason and after the interseason will become close to zero. So I don't see why I have to be punished by a fine(and the problem is not that I don't have the money). Actually I'm already punished financially: I paid a coaching secretary of 98avg, 450K for two weeks now, and I paid all the fines for firing my players. All these actions turned out to be useless.. CONCLUSION: The -10% rule is a very reasonable measure, and I hope we can close this discussion. PS: You always talk about players above 60 and even 70. I would be really suprised if there were over 30 players in this situation ( I haven't seen many of them)... So it's very unreasonable that, because of these few high-avg players, everybody has to be punished. You accused me of bashing players. You attacked my legit transfer history. You attempted to insult my credibility. You insinuated that I wasn't a good manager because you thought I wasn't active during the transfer period (even though I was). And you accused me of trying to bring the game down. If you can't hack it, then don't make foolish statements and attempt to offend. - I already had read the thread you quoted. It's the same as has been written here. - I haven't seen where an admin said it wasn't a bug, but I have seen where an admin has said it was. I know some admins signed players, that was already mentioned. And you could have known about it if you'd been on the forum where it was discussed. - I know that you didn't receive a warning. I've said this numerous times. How many more times do you need it written. - Rules were broken. Just not intentional by the vast majority. - What invalid arguments? - How am I blocking the issue been solved? The admins will take whatever action they decide no matter what I say. - If you don't recognize signing players during the season, and the signing of players for €0 when it was not meant to occur, then there's little hope for you. - I know there was limited number of 60-70 avg players, hence the weighted reduction. And judging by your squad, my suggestion of a %25, %20, %15..... reduction (whatever people/admins felt was fair) means that you would have fallen into the %10-%15 category anyway. The financial penalty was for those who signed the players and then resold them. Those who bought them will have the player with a %10-%20 reduction. Hardly fair to them. |
21/06/2011 19:12 |
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@Rand - Apology accepted, we're cool. I care about game balance also, and in the long run, it will all level out. No worries. It just shouldn't hurt the better managers. The thing that should come out of this is better communication of changes that will dramatically impact the teams...before they are implemented... If you guys have decided on a solution, you should probably post that solution and lock the thread before it gets out of control, though, the unruly crowd is beginning to turn on itself. |
21/06/2011 19:28 |
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You accused me of bashing players. - > by saying the 20% measure is a fair one You attacked my legit transfer history. - > just used a prolonged version of your strategy, with what has happened.. You attempted to insult my credibility. - > I think it's up to the other managers to decide on this You insinuated that I wasn't a good manager because you thought I wasn't active during the transfer period (even though I was). - > You should have taken the risk, and not complain of it aftwerwards And you accused me of trying to bring the game down. - > by attacking a reasonable solution for this problem To all your other arguments, I already answered them.. And the financial penalty, only for players who sold them? It wasn't clear, but by putting it that way, I can only agree with you Let's end this discussion because it's ridiculous to go on. |
21/06/2011 19:28 |
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Ninocchi said: brezzette said: u call it as u like,for me its WHINING ! was protesting and sharing at the begining when we all give our opinions how to fix this but now commnets are:what is this? why is this? etc Oh noes! Somebody's whining. What do we do now? :'( Seriously, you don't like it then stop reading. I'll admit that there are a number of posters who should definitely take a step back and relax but there's nothing that you or I can say or do to prevent them from venting about this and other related issues. i come here and read to see if they find solution or some1 make good sugestion not to read whiners. if u fell like whiner ok |
21/06/2011 19:38 |
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