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Do you agree with the -20%avg rule for free-gained players during inter-season?
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Well, lots of things were messed up today, and admin not responding... pretty sure they're working on the problem(s) and we'll here more from them tonight/tomorow! 21/06/2011 18:12
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ymcop said:
No, it's not done, our players' stamina didn't recover today, also the training. Hello, any communication for this admin?


This has nothing to do with the 20%avg rule. You could make another topic about this, then they will notice it.
21/06/2011 18:17
  Kings XI Punjab - Div1/Gr1
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Cultif said:
ymcop said:
No, it's not done, our players' stamina didn't recover today, also the training. Hello, any communication for this admin?


This has nothing to do with the 20%avg rule. You could make another topic about this, then they will notice it.


Well, at any rate, they still have not restored the 10%avg nor -2yrs.
21/06/2011 18:20
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@internat said:
We've been discussing here how to solve this, and we can offer to restore players average to a -10%, and 2 years younger.
If most of you agree we will proceed this way.

+1
21/06/2011 18:20
  Mr. Q17 - Div1/Gr1
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++1
21/06/2011 18:22
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Koppington said:
paus united said:
Koppington, you're bashing on everybody that signed free players, but when I look at your transfer history (http://uk.strikermanager.com/inicio.php?accion=/usuario.php%3Fid%3D10314107), signing free players is the only thing you did last season.. That's why your attitude loses all of its credibility.. If you had been active in the season-ending (what a good manager would have done), you would have done the same.. It's just your own fault, and now you're trying to bring the whole game down by opposing the propotition of the admins. Just accept the proposition of the admin, so that we can close this topic and go on with the game


Can you not read? Are you illiterate?
I haven't bashed all those that signed free players. I recognize that they ended up in a situation that was mainly not their fault, and have suggested that they shouldn't be overly punished by the admins in their attempt to make the situation 'fairer'.

I signed free youth players during the regular season and sold them. Show me where in the rules where is says I, or anyone, can't do so?
That doesn't effect my credibility, it just shows that you are unable to comprehend the system.

I was active at the end of season, and saw the thread explaining what was occurring, but I avoided this situation. Why can't you understand this basic reasoning.

Trying to bring the whole game down?
You need to get your head examined.


At first there is NO NEED TO OFFEND PEOPLE AND GET PERSONAL!! But let's stay on the topic

Secondly why can't I understand your "basic reasoning"?
-You always talk about that thread that (a) just a few have read, (b)neither has been confirmed by any admin... I suggest you take a good look at this thread: http://uk.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=256407
-As stated earlier in the discussion, an admin even said it wasn't a bug, and some admins even signed players by the same way. So please stop calling it a bug, because even if it was, we simply couldn't know.
- You said: (today 13:38)
"So those who used the bug, ignored the warnings (this was discussed in the forums prior to the weekend and was a known bug), can now get 54avg players for free?While those who heeded the warnings and obeyed the game rules don't benefit?
Expect the "-10% avg Rule Poll" thread to be created soon"
I may be crazy, as you said the post before, but I didn't recieve ANY warning? Neither did the other 280 managers! As stated before, there weren't any rules broken. So by making two invalid arguments, you decide to attack the reasonable admin-suggestion, and block the issue of being solved.

So, why is the -10%avg. rule fair?
Everybody can conclude that these transactions by managers are/were legit. They just signed free players (as you did in the season, youth player or not), and by doing so they strengthen their team.
That's why I even think there shouldn't be any punishment at all!! However to make the game fair, the proposed settlement of -10% avg. helps all the parties. Why?
It compensates
-the managers who fired good players. There won't be a big difference before and after the inter-season.
-the managers who bought these players, and also didn't know it was a bug
-managers who didn't sign any of them, by implementing the -10%avg. the overall avg of these teams stays status-quo

Let me show you with an example:
In my situation the avg. of my team has dropped in comparison with my last season match because of the -20% rule. But by implementing this 10%-measure the difference of the overall avg. of my team before the interseason and after the interseason will become close to zero. So I don't see why I have to be punished by a fine(and the problem is not that I don't have the money). Actually I'm already punished financially: I paid a coaching secretary of 98avg, 450K for two weeks now, and I paid all the fines for firing my players. All these actions turned out to be useless..

CONCLUSION: The -10% rule is a very reasonable measure, and I hope we can close this discussion.


PS: You always talk about players above 60 and even 70. I would be really suprised if there were over 30 players in this situation ( I haven't seen many of them)... So it's very unreasonable that, because of these few high-avg players, everybody has to be punished.

21/06/2011 18:28
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It's a good comprimise.

I had no players even close to 60, actually the highest one I managed to find was in his low 40's

Edited by jacobpark 21-06-2011 18:55
21/06/2011 18:35
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Indeed, just agree with the 10% rule and let get this thing over with 21/06/2011 18:47
  Kings XI Punjab - Div1/Gr1
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Cultif said:
ymcop said:
No, it's not done, our players' stamina didn't recover today, also the training. Hello, any communication for this admin?


This has nothing to do with the 20%avg rule. You could make another topic about this, then they will notice it.


It does! Because of this problem they stop the training and stamina process to not make things worse. We just need even a message like: "Guys, admin here, we are working on this, also the training and stamina problem, we will get back tomorrow morning."

21/06/2011 18:48
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paus united said:

Actually I'm already punished financially: I paid a coaching secretary of 98avg, 450K for two weeks now, and I paid all the fines for firing my players. All these actions turned out to be useless..



All that, and I had to go through another punishment. Loosing my first league game due to 20% drop, that too just before the game.

On here, i often see people to a Real Life comparison of the game. Here is another one:-

Sometimes in life people are punished, even when they are not at fault. Just like whats happening here.

Come On.
21/06/2011 18:55
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